Voice of an Outburst

Last night during President Obama’s speech before a joint session of Congress about healthcare, one congressman (Congressman Joe Wilson of South Carolina) shouted out “You lie!” from his seat.  This shocked Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and the people watching at home.  The shout came just as President Obama mentioned that the new healthcare overhaul would not cover illegal immigrants.

I’m not here to say that Congressman Wilson doesn’t have a right to disagree with the President and voice it, as well.  But there is a time and place for such an outburst…and a joint session of Congress during a Presidential address is not one of them.  Sure in Great Britain, this stuff happens all the time.  But in the US, we practice civility and decorum when it comes to a Presidential address.  After all, how many speeches did we have to sit in and listen to from President Bush in which we knew he was lying right to our face.  And still, we behaved ourselves and sat there quietly listening to what he had to say…and then when the debate started, that is when we voiced our concern over things that were mentioned.  And that is what Congressman Wilson should have done.  Though he believes that the President was lying, he should have kept it to himself until it was time to debate such things.  It is at that moment when there is active debate that he should have voiced what he had to say in however an appropriate manner.

And I’ll even give you wording out of the House bill (since that is the only bill thus far) over illegal immigrants and the healthcare reform bill…

The House version of the health care bill explicitly prohibits spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get health care coverage. The bill’s exact language: “Nothing in this subtitle shall allow federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully in the United States.”

But Wilson is far from alone in thinking that the prohibition in the House bill doesn’t go far enough. For him and other Republicans, the problem is not what’s in the bill, it’s what the bill leaves out — namely a provision to enforce the no-illegals rule.

Associated Press~

Congressman Wilson has since apologized for his outburst to President Obama…and the President has accepted the apology.  It’s not clear if Congressman Wilson did so because he knew he was against decorum to do it in the first place, the GOP leadership pressured him into it, the many angry people who helped to crash his website and flooded his Twitter page, or the fact that his opponent for next year’s mid-term election got a flood of donations.  In any case, I’m glad he realized that the appropriate thing to do was to apologize and get the matter behind him rather than dragging it out…though the media will hype on it for a week before returning to other things.  The congressman is very lucky that Speaker Pelosi didn’t gavel down on him at that very instant…which was perfectly within her right to do so as she is in charge of keeping order in the chamber.

Oddly enough though…this kind of outburst isn’t surprising to me.  When it has come to the healthcare debate, I’ve noticed a lot of people yelling and screaming at each other, but no one is actively debated or discussing it rationally with each other.  It seems as if most have resorted to acting like children instead of adults when it comes to this topic.  Yes, it’s a hot topic…it effects me, as well, as I have to buy my own health insurance for myself since neither job offer it to me.  But I’m not out there screaming and yelling at people over this…mainly because I haven’t made up my mind on it.  Do I believe we need reform in the healthcare system?  Yes indeed.  Do I believe a government-run option is the way to go?  Not so sure on that one.  The government usually has a problem just running itself as it is.  I can already see the monetary waste piling up with it.  But don’t take that to mean that I’m completely against it…I just have my own conditions that need to be in place in order for me to support such a measure.  And I still think that we, as citizens, should be allowed to shop around in other states for lower prices, too.  That could be a major help.

So I’ve gotten a little sidetracked…as my stance on this isn’t really important to the grand scheme of things.  The point that I’m trying to make is that we all need to step back and take a breath.  We’ve all gotten so wrapped up in this topic that we aren’t even listening to each other anymore.  It’s become so emotional that we just resort to screaming and shouting at each other…instead of giving each person a moment to say their piece and then allowing another person to counter it.  It’s called active debating…and you’d be surprised as to how much you can learn from such a thing.  It might not change your stance…but it at least gets to consider it.  And most important during any of this is to make sure you’ve done your homework…gotten information from many different sources and be able to back up what you say.  Nothing is worse than an uneducated person trying to debate something they know absolutely nothing about…and it happens far too often in this country.

Congressman Wilson should have apologized for his outburst, and I’m glad he did.  Again, it’s not so much that he spoke out against the President, it was the manner in which he chose to do so.  There will be time for him to speak his thoughts about what the President said last night…and it will be at a far more appropriate time and place.  And we all, as the voting public, need to take a step back ourselves and stop shouting at one another.  It’s not going to get us anywhere.  We all need to calm down and actively (and intelligently) debate each other.  That is where progress comes from…and that is how we will get something done.

SIDENOTE: I’ve also noticed a lot of comments referencing President Obama has “Fuhrer”.  This is highly disrespectful and not even close to being funny.  As someone who studies history, this pains me to see…as no President even comes close to such a name.  Socialist is one thing…but “fuhrer” is something completely different and is not something that anyone should be called.

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3 Responses to Voice of an Outburst

  1. Melanie, RN says:

    oh, I was taught that being a socialist was what got Hitler into power. And many of the same tactics that the likes of Stallin/Lenin are being employed today by Obama. He even has appointed felons as part of his Czar team, has surrounded himself with the likes of ACORN who has been brought up on voter fraud in FL, and the labor unions.

  2. James says:

    No…Hitler got to power by blaming everything on the Jews and then convincing everyone that they were better than everyone else and that by wiping away the Jews would save them. There’s a reason why they call it fascism instead of socialism or communism in Germany in regards to Hitler and the Fuhrer. So a socialist is one term that I leave up to the individual to decide, but when one starts name calling (i.e. Fuhrer) then I have a problem…and it’s totally disrespectful as only Hitler should ever have that title and should only be referred to as such.

    All Presidents have pretty much appointed felons…doesn’t make it right, though. But you can’t hold him to a standard that you haven’t held others to. And we can argue about voter fraud as that’s been going on since the beginning of our nation and probably won’t go away in our lifetime as there is no way to really curb it…not with a nation this big and a population this diverse. (hell, Andrew Jackson when he first won the presidency won Louisiana on fraud. since there wasn’t one set election day…not until his second election…his voters would go from one parish to another voting for him). And as for labor unions…I do have my quarrels with them, but they do make sure I still have a job…otherwise, my company would have eliminated my shift a long time ago (or I’d be working for less than I do now…and I barely make enough to get by on as it is).

  3. James says:

    Also…Germany between the wars was a republic. Hitler was elected by the people…and became leader when the Chancellor died. Yeah…Hitler was elected to Vice Chancellor. And the Nazi party was anti-communism. From there he concentrated his power by finding a scapegoat to blame everything on.

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